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[4e] Forced Movement

Got a question for those playing 4e: Can you push an enemy into a flaming sphere? In short, as DM, I said no. Situation: This came up in my game on Saturday. The eladrin wizard had a flaming sphere...

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Re: [4e] Forced Movement

You are correct, I believe. Enemies can't enter the space a conjuration occupies (PHB p.59) and a forced move can't make an enemy move into a space he couldn't enter normally (PHB p. 286).

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Re: [4e] Forced Movement

that is a silly distinction.

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Re: [4e] Forced Movement

That's exactly why I asked, Deepcut. It seemed kinda wonky, rules-wise and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. I'm still getting my head around the forced movement stuff.

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I have not seen anything of 4th ed rules but I would say that the attempt to force the movement fails as you pushed the creature into a solid object. The creature knocks in to the object and then...

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Re: [4e] Forced Movement

I'm with Seppuku on this one. Maybe the 4e rules don't support it, but this is a case where the DM's common sense should prevail. If forced movement can push you over a cliff, it should be able to...

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Re: [4e] Forced Movement

I agree with the previous two posters. They have to be able to enter the square standing in an upright combat ready position. I think the rule is trying to say that you can't push someone through a...

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Re: [4e] Forced Movement

Here is my opinion: Just because the sphere cannot be conjured in the same space as another object does not mean that it could not occupy the same space as another object that can share spaces (like a...

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